This is taken from the transcript taken down during Trump’s interview with Peter Baker and Maggie Haberman of the New York Times:
HABERMAN: Has Rod Rosenstein given you any sense over the course of the last year about whether you have any exposure, either in — or there’s any concerns, or whether you’re a target of the Mueller report?
TRUMP: Well he told the attorneys that I’m not a subject, I’m not a target.
HABERMAN: He told your attorneys?
TRUMP: Yeah. Oh, yeah.
HABERMAN: Did he say that about the S.D.N.Y. [Southern District of New York] investigation, too?
TRUMP: About which?
HABERMAN: The S.D.N.Y. investigation. Because there’s two. There’s Mueller, and then there’s the Cohen investigation.
TRUMP: I don’t know about that. That I don’t know about.
HABERMAN: Rod has never said anything to you about whether you’re a target at all in terms of what they were looking for on Cohen? Has that ever come up?
TRUMP: No. I don’t. We didn’t discuss it.
AIDE: Mr. President, we’re coming up on 45 minutes.
TRUMP: Yeah, that’s O.K. Rod told me I’m not a target of the investigation.
HABERMAN: He did?
TRUMP: He did. He told me.
I have to say that I find this almost impossible to believe.
But keep in mind that during this same interview Trump claimed that his intelligence chiefs said they totally agree with him and that reports to the contrary were fake news.
With that in mind here is what he said about how Jared Kushner got his security clearance:
HABERMAN: Can I switch gears for a second? There’s been a story in the news the last two weeks about your son-in-law’s security clearance.
HABERMAN: Did you tell General Kelly or anyone else in the White House to overrule security officials? The career veterans —
TRUMP: No. I don’t think I have the authority to do that. I’m not sure I do.
Haberman: You do have the authority to do it.
Trump: But I wouldn’t. I wouldn’t do it.
TRUMP: Um, Jared is a good —
HABERMAN: You never —
TRUMP: I was never involved with the security. I know that he — you know, just from reading — I know that there was issues back and forth about security for numerous people, actually. But I don’t want to get involved in that stuff.
HABERMAN: O.K. Why would you want to — why stay out? You do have the authority to —
TRUMP: I don’t know. I just don’t — I just, I never thought it was necessary. I also know him. He’s a very solid person, and I just can’t imagine he would have — I guess even, Ivanka, they, they, I heard that, uh, something with Jared and Ivanka —
TRUMP: But, uh, I don’t believe I’ve ever met any of the national security — of the people that would do clearances. Um, and there’d be nothing wrong, I don’t think, with me calling them up to the Oval Office and say, “Hey give these people, you know, clearances” —
HABERMAN: You just told me — [inaudible]
TRUMP: Yeah, yeah, so there, I, I mean, I take back the other — I didn’t, I was answering a little bit different question. Uh, I have the right to do it, but I never thought it was necessary, Maggie. I never thought it was necessary.
HABERMAN: And you didn’t direct General Kelly or anyone like that to do it?
TRUMP: No. And, and frankly, I never thought it was necessary to do so.
In this exchange, it appears that Maggie Haberman caught him in a lie, but he simply talks around it and then reiterates that he did nothing to assist Kushner in getting clearance, though he maintains that he could have.
That is almost certainly bullshit.
Here is one final excerpt of Trump claiming that he never talked to Roger Stone about Wikileaks:
HABERMAN: Speaking of former aides, we wanted to talk to you about [Roger] Stone.
TRUMP: Sure, now you know Roger didn’t work for me in the campaign.
HABERMAN: Initially and then he —
TRUMP: Well, yeah, but that was before I — you know, that was either early primary or before primary.
HABERMAN: It was August or September .
TRUMP: That was a long time. I will say this, I’ve always liked — I like Roger, he’s a character. But I like Roger. For a team of 29 people with AK27s, or whatever they were using, to charge a house like they did at 6:00 in the morning. I think that was a very sad thing for this country.
HABERMAN: Did you ever talk to him about WikiLeaks? Because that seemed —
HABERMAN: You never had conversations with him.
TRUMP: No, I didn’t. I never did.
HABERMAN: Did you ever tell him to — or other people to get in touch with them?
TRUMP: Never did.
Once again based on what we know the likelihood that Trump never talked to Stone about Wikileaks seems highly suspect.
Keep in mind that while Stone was reaching out to Wikileaks over and over again, Trump was talking them up on stage at venue after venue.
So at this point, it is reasonable to ask why I even posted this since it is once again a long slew of false statements made by a guy who has now become synonymous with false statements.
But the reason for that is because it appears to me that Trump is becoming more careless with his lies, and lives under the assumption that he is untouchable and that his lies, even once revealed, will have no negative impact on him or his presidency.
First off, that is pretty terrifying.
But second, it also means that when one of Trump’s innumerable lies finally comes back to take a chunk out of his flabby ass, that his response will be a thing to behold.
And I want to be watching my television screen the moment that it happens so that I can see the look on his face when it slowly dawns on him that he is fucked.