The Trump/Putin meeting. A retrospective.

By | 2018-07-17T09:04:03+00:00 July 16th, 2018|Categories: Front Page, News, News2|Tags: , , , , , , |19 Comments

It is not often that I watch a press conference with my mouth agape, but that is exactly how I watched this one. 

We all predicted shit show, and the shit certainly did show

Here are some bullet points courtesy of NYT:

President Trump stood next to President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia on Monday and publicly challenged the conclusion of his own intelligence agencies that Moscow interfered in the 2016 presidential election, wrapping up what he called a “deeply productive” summit meeting with an extraordinary show of trust for a leader accused of attacking American democracy.

“They said they think it’s Russia; I have President Putin, he just said it’s not Russia,” Mr. Trump said, only moments after the Russian president conceded that he had favored Mr. Trump in the election because of his promises of warmer relations with Moscow.

“I will say this: I don’t see any reason why it would be” Russia that was responsible for the election hacking, Mr. Trump added. “I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today.”

(Yeah, he actually said that.)

When asked directly whether he believed Mr. Putin or his own intelligence agencies, Mr. Trump said there were “two thoughts” on the matter, and then changed the subject, demanding to know why the F.B.I. never examined the hacked computer servers of the Democratic National Committee, and asking about the fate of emails missing from the server of Hillary Clinton, his campaign rival.

“Where are those servers?” Mr. Trump said. “Where are Hillary Clinton’s emails?”

Seriously?

At one point a reporter asked Putin directly if he had Kompromat on Trump.

He did not deny it.

Courtesy of Vox:

Putin, though, did not say the tape doesn’t exist. Instead, he argued that he was not personally aware of Trump’s trip to Russia and also mentioned that foreign businessmen visit Russia frequently, before asking, “Do you think that we try to collect compromising material on each and every single one of them?”

“For us this issue — and now to the compromising material. Yeah, I did heard these rumors that these allegedly collected compromising material on Mr. Trump when he was visiting Moscow.

Distinguished colleague, let me tell you this: When President Trump was in Moscow back then, I didn’t even know that he was in Moscow. I treat President Trump with utmost respect, but back then when he was a private individual, a businessman, nobody informed me that he was in Moscow.

Let’s take St. Petersburg economic forum, for instance. There were over 500 American businessmen, high-ranking, high-level ones. I don’t even remember the last names of each and every one. Do you think that we try to collect compromising material on each and every single one of them? Well, it’s difficult to imagine on a bigger scale of this. Please disregard these issues and don’t think about this anymore again.”

“Do you think that we try to collect compromising material on each and every single one of them?” Yes, according to our intelligence experts that is EXACTLY what the Russians do. 

At another point, Trump said that Putin had a great idea, and that was to have Robert Mueller send the information he has gathered on the Russian hackers to the Kremlin so that they could work on getting to the truth TOGETHER!

And he was serious!

I can hear Robert Mueller laughing his ass off in response to this from here.

And then there was this:

Asked by an American reporter whether he had wanted Mr. Trump to win and directed an effort designed to bring about that result, Mr. Putin quickly answered: “Yes I did, yes I did, because he talked about bringing the U.S.-Russia relationship back to normal.”

So there you have it, he fucking admitted to it. 

There are some who claim he did not hear the question, but I call bullshit on that. 

Here is how DNI Dan Coats responded after watching this debacle:


Keep in mind that is the DNI that Trump appointed.

Former CIA Director John Brennan did not pull any punches.


Damn straight!

John McCain also had something to say:


My final thought on all of this is that it defies logic that ANYBODY could continue to deny after this that Donald Trump is not either compromised by Russia or actively working for the Kremlin. 

I, of course, have been saying this for months now, but seriously is there really any other possibility? 

As John Brennan says this was an act of treason performed right in front of the television cameras for everybody to see.

So will this finally be enough to shock people out of their slumber? 

No, Donald Trump should not remain in office.

No, Donald Trump should not be allowed to choose our next Supreme Court justice.

No, Donald Trump should not be allowed to represent our country overseas ever again. 

But yes, he should be charged with treason, removed from the People’s House, and impeachment proceedings should begin immediately. 

And if anybody disagrees with this they better take a good hard look at their own patriotism and their own moral standards. 

Update: Rachel Maddow’s show opener tonight. 

Looks like we’re on the same page. 

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19 Comments

  1. Anonymous July 16, 2018 at 4:35 pm - Reply

    The real reason Robert Mueller arrested Maria Butina during the Trump-Putin summit

    …But as for the reason Mueller arrested her while Trump was holding a summit with Putin: the answer is simple: Mueller is screwing with them both, not only to keep them off their game, but to make a statement to the world about how he’s turning up the heat. The spies were Friday. Butina is today. What about tomorrow?

    http://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/reason-maria-butina-trump-putin/11410/

    http://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/mueller-screws-really-trump-part/11403/

  2. Anonymous July 16, 2018 at 6:19 pm - Reply

    It’s all true. Trump really is a Russian agent.

    Now what?

    • Paul July 16, 2018 at 7:26 pm - Reply

      Anonymous @ 6:19: Very simple question, but no simple answers. It would be helpful if elected republicans would actually be brave enough to do something about it, but they are not. In fact, many of them are complicit in Dotard’s treasonous acts. It would be helpful if we had a fair election this November, but Russia and elected republicans are doing all they can to deny this. It would be helpful if Dotard’s supporters cared about our country, but their primary concern is the propagation of the white, christian heritage (as they see it). It would be helpful if more of the press would report facts, but the conservative “press” is only interested in ideology, not facts. And this is the press that Dotard’s followers watch and read. It would be helpful if more people voted, but too many people can’t be bothered, and too many red states are making it harder for non-conservatives to vote. “Now What?” Excellent question.

  3. Anonymous July 16, 2018 at 6:23 pm - Reply

    Trump Tells Hannity Putin Denied Meddling: He Was ‘Very, Very Strong’

    https://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-tells-hannity-putin-denied-meddling-he-was-very-very-strong/

    Fmr. Fox News Analyst Ralph Peters: Trump Betrayed U.S. in Putin Summit, POTUS Was ‘Licking His Boots’

    Former Fox News analyst Lt. Col. Ralph Peters is calling President Trump a traitor to America for groveling at Vladimir Putin‘s feet in Helsinki.

    The ex-intelligence officer spoke to CNN’s Anderson Cooper on Monday night, and Peters got very direct by stating, “Putin pitched a shut out, Trump got beat up in the locker room.” He maintained that the summit was “a disgrace to the office of the presidency,” yet the manner in which he believes Trump supporters will nonetheless gloss over the meeting’s failures suggests that the president is somehow “indebted” to Putin.

    “We have a president who appears not merely willing but eager to compromise our security, to betray our national interests, to betray our country,” Peters said. “I believe as an American who really cares about this country that we have a president who is betraying us.”

    Peters went on to say that Americans “cannot have the least faith in their president,” saying there should be major concern about what Trump might’ve said or promised to Putin during their closed-door meetings before the widely-panned press conference.

    “Today, we watched an American president grovel, grovel before the leader of the most hostile foreign power in the world, licking his boots.”

    Watch above, via CNN.

    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fmr-fox-news-analyst-ralph-peters-trump-betrayed-u-s-in-putin-summit-potus-was-licking-his-boots/

  4. Anonymous July 16, 2018 at 6:43 pm - Reply

    Affidavit: ‘key’ Republican ‘leaders’ had secure back channel to the Kremlin in October 2016

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/7/16/1781013/-Indictment-key-Republican-leaders-had-secure-back-channel-to-the-Kremlin-in-October-2016

    This is about to get very, very ugly for whichever Republicans in Congress were complicit in the Trump-Russia election plot.

    http://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/republican-maria-butina-arrest-leaders/11415/

  5. abbafan July 16, 2018 at 6:48 pm - Reply

    Gryphen – I totally agree with most network anchors and brave politicians from both sides of the House in their assessment of traitor trump’s performance today; “treasonous”!! He is being excoriated by everyone, even his own party. I would not be surprised if there were more high-level Cabinet resignations after this disastrous fiasco! It must have been a very lonely plane ride back for fatso; supposedly, even the reporters who accompanied him wanted nothing to do with him afterwards. Even a few brave souls at Fox, his “safe haven”, called him out for his sheer and blatant stupidity!!

    I was very surprised that Chris Wallace, who interviewed puty-baby, held his feet to the fire! First, when he handed putin a copy of Mr. Mueller’s indictments against the 12 russian agents named within, and asked him to elaborate! But, the big surprise was when Wallace asked him point-blank as to why his opponents “wind up dead, or very near to it”; he had that bald-head little fucker squirming!!! I would like to see how that ass-kissing bag-licker hannity spins this shit!!

    I did not expect ANYONE at Fox to turn on trump today; let’s see how long this lasts. However, I believe there is another underlying reason for their 180 turn-around on trump. When he excoriated British Prime Minister May last week in that Sun interview in London, he fucked up royally! He tried to back-pedal the next day, but it was too late; the damage was done. My reasoning is this: the Sun is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who owns Fox; they want to acquire Sky TV in Britain, this is their second attempt. British telecom regulators rejected their previous attempt.

    That being said, after today’s fiasco in Helsinki, Murdoch possibly issued a directive to Fox personnel to publicly denigrate trump, so they can curry favour with the British regulators in the Sky TV deal, therefore giving the appearance that they were not afraid to stand up to trump, and redeeming themselves in the eyes of British public opinion!

  6. Anonymous July 16, 2018 at 6:54 pm - Reply

    A round-up of red hot Republican reviews of Donald Trump’s ‘shameful’ press conference

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/7/16/1780954/-A-round-up-of-red-hot-Republican-reviews-of-Donald-Trump-s-shameful-press-conference

    Vladimir Putin’s stumbling, reeling performance during his Chris Wallace interview gives away that the Trump experiment has been a failure for him. Putin thought he was getting an asset, and instead he got a liability. Trump put several more nails in the coffin of his dying presidency with that humiliating press conference today. How much longer before Putin cuts bait and lets Trump sink?

    http://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/chris-wallace-interview-putin/11414/

  7. Anonymous July 16, 2018 at 6:58 pm - Reply

    Are you proud of that, Trump supporters?? Congress??
    Guess what’s going to happen in repsonse? Nothing. Zip. Nada. Belch.

  8. Anonymous July 16, 2018 at 6:59 pm - Reply

    Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin, and America’s “geopolitical suicide”
    The Trump-Putin meeting reveals how Trump is killing American power.

    The Trump-Putin summit was, by all accounts, a disgrace for the United States. President Trump kowtowed to Vladimir Putin, praising the Russian leader as a potential partner and casting doubt on accusations of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

    But the thing that made it not just disgraceful but actively terrifying was the timing.

    Last week, Trump attended a NATO summit, where he met with America’s top allies in Western Europe to discuss (among other things) the threat from Putin’s Russia. Trump spent the meeting bashing American allies for not spending enough on their own defense, labeling the Western alliance “delinquent.” Shortly afterward, he gave interviews slamming the UK prime minister and labeling the European Union a ”foe.”

    The contrast with the Putin press conference, in which Trump vowed to build an “extraordinary relationship” with Russia, couldn’t be clearer. In fact, the same day as the fawning Putin presser, the Trump administration brought a World Trade Organization suit alleging that the bulk of NATO allies are engaging in unfair trade practices against the United States.

    We all kind of knew this is how Trump felt, since at least the campaign. But Monday’s Trump-Putin summit, and the NATO summit before it, showed that he was serious about turning those feelings into action. Trump has, in the past week, said and done several things that concretely undermine the US’s relationship with Western Europe while at the same time ingratiating himself with Putin.

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/16/17577096/trump-putin-meeting-nato

    https://www.vox.com/

  9. Anonymous July 16, 2018 at 7:06 pm - Reply

    Sean Hannity finally confesses that the 2016 election was ‘rigged’ — in front of Trump

    Trump never accepted Hannity’s premise that the election was rigged. However, Putin announced for the first time that he wanted the election to go to Trump.

    Watch the segment below:

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/sean-hannity-finally-confesses-2016-election-rigged-front-trump/

    Watch: Hannity frantically ends his segment after guests criticizes the Trump-Putin summit

    …In favor of President Trump, Hannity would not allow a guest on his show to critique the president or provide further context on the U.S relationship with Russia.

    Hannity asked his guest about cybersecurity.

    “I spent a good chunk of my life collecting intelligence on Vladimir Putin. Let me take a look at it through his eyes,” the guest said.

    He continued: “That’s why I believe that if the president said look Vladimir, we know you meddled in the elections.”

    Before he could finish his next sentence, Hannity interrupted.

    “Let me finish my thought,” the guest said.

    Hannity said that condemning Putin on the world stage would have zerp benefits. “What would that do for our future relations?” Hannity asked.

    Watch below.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/watch-hannity-frantically-ends-segment-guests-criticizes-trump-putin-summit/

    Retired general unleashes on Trump as ‘unfit to command our troops’ in wake of Putin presser

    “The only explanation for today’s appalling performance by @realDonaldTrump is the Russians have high value compromising intel on POTUS,” he tweeted Monday evening. “Something that would have been discovered during any serviceman’s background investigation.”

    He went on to say that after the display in Helsinki, President Trump “is unfit to command our troops.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/retired-general-unleashes-trump-unfit-command-troops-wake-putin-presser/

  10. Immoral July 16, 2018 at 8:01 pm - Reply

    Oh. You all KNOW that SNL is going to show the dumbtards what this means.
    Face palm. The dumbing down of USA.

  11. dvlaries July 17, 2018 at 2:31 am - Reply

    A five hour-old You Tube comment with 370 ‘thumbs up’ so far:

    ” On this day, 1945, the first nuke was tested on American soil. Also in “1790, a site along the Potomac River was designated the permanent seat of the United States government; the area became Washington, D.C….” …also… “In 1964, as he accepted the Republican presidential nomination in San Francisco, Barry M. Goldwater declared that “extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice” and that “moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.” And… “In 1973, during the Senate Watergate hearings, former White House aide Alexander P. Butterfield publicly revealed the existence of President Richard Nixon’s secret taping system.” Plus today was the day of the Apollo rocket launch to the moon. Quite an interesting history. Now it will also be known as the day an American president betrayed his country. “

  12. amom July 17, 2018 at 3:09 am - Reply

    Drumpf needs to go. The easy way or the hard way. Mueller needs to not drag this out any longer. I believe he has had the goods since the very beginning.
    Time to expose it all. End this now. The election was illegitimate. Vote of confidence for Hillary n November.
    Time to rebuild.

  13. Beaglemom July 17, 2018 at 5:48 am - Reply

    John McCain is being too kind. The presser was absolutely the worst “performance” by any US president ever. It could not have been worse. And Republicans in Congress, other than John McCain who really is barely there now, fellow traveler as they are, have not said a word.

  14. Anonymous July 17, 2018 at 6:27 am - Reply
  15. anonymous July 17, 2018 at 7:32 am - Reply

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/russian-state-tv-boasts-trump-never-mentioned-crimea-press-conference-putin-came-rescue/

    ““Trump failed to mention Russia’s aggression in Ukraine and the annexation of CRIMEa,” Skabeeva said, according to Davis’ translation. “He didn’t forget, but purposely didn’t mention it.””Last month, Skabeeva celebrated Trump reportedly reciting Russian talking points about CRIMEa during a G7 conference while proudly declaring that, “CRIMEa is ours, Trump is ours!”

    Trump is going CRAZY. tinydjt tweet
    “While I had a great meeting with NATO, raising vast amounts of MonEy, I had an even better meeting with Vladimir Putin of Ru$$ia. Sadly, it is not being reported that way – the Fake News is going Crazy!
    6:22 AM – Jul 17, 2018”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/trump-angrily-rants-universally-negative-reaction-putin-summit-fake-news-going-crazy/

  16. Anonymous July 17, 2018 at 8:01 am - Reply

    https://www.pbs.org/video/amanpour-sauli-niinisto-william-burns-and-alexey-pushkov-xvakef/

    “In an exclusive interview Sauli Niinistö, the Finnish Prime Minister joins Christiane Amanpour in Helsinki, Finland on the day of the Trump-Putin summit to discuss hosting the historic talks. William J. Burns, the former U.S. Ambassador to Russia discusses the state of Russia-U.S. relations following the summit. Alexey Pushkov, the Russian senator discusses President Putin’s motives.”

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