NEW: On @CNNSotu, Kirsten Gillibrand was asked about the mailer I reported on her office sent out bragging about her votes to increase and speed up deportations of undocumented immigrants.
“I did not think about suffering in other people’s lives,” Gillibrand said. pic.twitter.com/ee9yePjDNZ
— andrew kaczynski (@KFILE) January 20, 2019
Damn, that is a terrible response.
But then again, what could she really say?
In my opinion, this right here would be enough to say “put a fork in her she is done,” but there is much more.
Courtesy of CNN:
Gillibrand responded to a question about her previous position on guns by addressing the previous sterling rating.
“So, I had an A-rating as a House member,” she said. “I only really looked at guns through the lens of hunting. My mother still shoots the Thanksgiving turkey. But when I became Senator, I recognized I had a lot to learn about my state and all of the 20 million I was going to represent.”
And the next morning, at a coffee shop in Boone, Iowa, Gillibrand opened with a simple nod to her past.
“I represented a rural place in Congress,” she told the audience at Livery Deli, a small coffee shop in the rural Iowa enclave.
“My story is my story. And when I am wrong, I admit it,” Gillibrand told CNN about not running from her more conservative past. “It is just who I am. And so that is why these stories are part of my story and it is what it is. It just defines who I am.”
Asked by CNN why she took more than $1 million from lobbyists in her career, but is now swearing off super PAC and lobbying money, Gillibrand described her decision as a presidential candidate a “first step” and admitted she wishes she had done it sooner.
“Yeah, I do,” she said. “And I think it is important to start somewhere and that is why I am starting here.”
Formerly held conservative ideas on immigration once had an A rating from the NRA and took money from lobbyists.
I think that is a few too many sins to be forgiven after a few “Hail Marys.”
And all of that is before we consider her treatment of Al Franken.
So yeah, it’s fork time.
Ad nauseum bringing this up, but seeing Andy Borowitz live last Friday.
Paraphrasing, they’ve been working on this so long that they usher in Sarah Palin 2008 to make the bar so low that anyone, ANYONE, can step over it.
Is she “journalisming” yet? Must feel good to know she was McCain’s deepest regret, eh boopsie?
Gees I thought I was annoyed with Sarah’s antics. You are really pissed.
Well, she is my senator, was my rep. in the house, and lived here in my little city in upstate NY. I read a much longer piece from Iowa and liked that she understood she got elected first to represent this rural congressional district, but once she was senator needed to learn about the entire state so she went out and did that and saw some other points of view and changed her stances. And, she continues like that. When I see her speak she answers questions asked. No one has to agree with her, and I am not sure I do fully, But, she does not dodge the questions, answers straightforwardly and with what sounds like her honest reasoning — to me. And, in her remarks in Iowa she pointed out her wins along the way and explained her reaction to Al Franken. I am still not sure I agree with her, but I accept her reasoning. She has won huge victories in NY, across the entire state, including liberal NYC and conservative upstate. So, I see her as someone who understands the need to engage with her constituency and studies and learns to do that.
The definition of democracy, Hudson. I would not vote for her but you can, without argument nor name calling from me.
While we have it on a shoestring……
Meh, too many more worthy candidates for me.
Hudson, a true leader listens, and then if they do not agree with the constituent, attempts to explain their position in the hopes of influencing the constituent. It sounds like Gillibrand puts her finger to the wind, and whichever way it is blowing, that’s the position she takes. That is not a leader, but a follower. If you take a look at my two favorite candidates Senator Harris (announced) and Senator Merkley (unannounced), they both show true leadership.
I would vote for Merkley in a heartbeat, Paul, but he’s my senator and is more in the trenches than making a name for himself.
I don’t watch political talk shows, maybe I’m wrong. Truly like that guy.
Mine too. Sherrod Brown. Though I believe he’s run in the past.
I do not think that a senator or representative only represents his/her immediate constituents. There are many issues that come before Congress that require a broader perspective. If it means educating your particular constituents, then the senator or representative should feel obligated to do it. In Gillibrand’s mind, apparently, only the people of the State of New York matter when she votes. And, when she was a representative, only the people in her rural district occupied her attention. That is far too narrow an interpretation of what the job of senator or representative is. He or she is also responsible for educating that particular constituency on what is best for them as part of the country as a whole. One of the big problems today in Washington is that so many politicians claim to have no responsibility for the population at large. They are responsible for all of us; that’s why they’re in Washington being paid by all of us, not just by their constituents. Currently, the worst offender in this narrow-vision-of-responsibility is Don the Con himself, who thinks that he is president, not of all the people, but only of the people who voted for him. That’s why he shut down the federal government to prove, as ineptly as he does everything, that he’s really serious about his fantasy wall.
This is the attitude that got Donald Trump elected. “Educating people about what is best for them”. Pretty patronizing. Years of this attitude from “leaders” like Hillary Clinton made people hate current leaders so much that they were willing to roll the dice with Donald Trump, even if it was not in their best interest. Yeah, people really don’t like condescending types telling them what’s good for them.
The polling is showing that any Democrat can probably beat Trump. The best way to blow it is to revert to condescending to voters the way Hillary did. Let’s not.
So she’s better at schmoozing the vote. Still can’t forgive the Franken thing.
ME NEITHER!
She condemned Al Franken before knowing all the facts, is that a problem with her, react before facts?
I’m a woman, raised conservative, now progressive/liberal, and quite frankly those like her will never get my vote.
There’s something about her demeanor. No thank you.
High five!
Completely agree; I’m afraid that her extreme conservative positions would color her reactions to future problems.
She gave some lame excuse on one of the late night talk shows ( Colbert?) that she has children and what kind of an example would she be for her children if she didn’t get rid of Franken.
As I recall, her answer was more of a side step of the question asked, also what kind of example are you setting for your children when you condemn before having all the facts.
She will certainly not get my vote in the primary.. the times I have seen her, something has bothered me about her answers, haven’t put my finger on it yet, but I think it has to do with the fact she didn’t seem to really answer the question but had a “formula” answer.
I do not support Gillibrand as a candidate for president. She set up the bandwagon to force Al Franken out of office. The charges against him were baseless and she knew it as well as all the other women Democratic senators who took up her “cause.” It was a pretty pathetic way to get the attention of the national media but that was what Gillibrand was after. I had little respect for then and I have less now knowing how narrowly she defines her scope of responsibility in Congress.
Fuhgeddaboudit.
“I did not think about suffering in other people’s lives,” Gillibrand said. Of course she didn’t and still doesn’t.
First step to free money and 15 minutes of fame. No and HELL NO.
Wish I had a twitter account, but I just can’t…..curses, RIP Mom and Dad, “don’t go there!”
Ironic words. Neither did Russia or USA. Now the guilty will be executed according to YOUR laws. Sucks to be u.
“the bubble headed bleach blonde comes on at 5:00.”
Democrats can’t afford a woman candidate for 2020. We need some ambiguously white guy like Beto.
I’d take US Senator Kamala Harris over Mr. Beto O’Rourke in 2020. Questions?
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/maga-troll-behind-plot-smear-mueller-kindles-new-racist-birther-movement-derail-kamala-harris/
Guess being BORN in Oakland isn’t enough…Is ~IT?
Does she.get enough iron?
Thatsallfolks may be right. And i am a woman. We learned that america is horribly misogynestic.
Oh fuck you. She didn’t hold a gun to Franlen’s head to get him to resign and she didn’t force him to take those photos or grope other women. She’s evolved on the gun thing. You are such a fucking misogynist posing as a Democrat trying to get credit for your lesbian daughter. Who was a stupid Bernie Sanders supporter if I recall correctly. You’re both stupid.
If Bernie is so stupid why is the entire Democratic party running on all his ideas.
Dumb ass say what.
The DNC is NOT running on “all his ideas.”
You are seriously trippin’.
The last thing we need in a President is someone who cannot see any other side but the one that touches them personally, until they’re basically slapped in the face with the results on other people of their actions. Everything she said pointed to that, and it’s bloody dangerous.
Just as Palin has that annoying screechy voice, Gillibrand has a hard to take seriously little girl voice. Things like that shouldn’t matter, but they do. If you can’t imagine someone with a little girl voice being a leader in the world, it is a non-starter. People won’t take her seriously. She doesn’t command attention like, say, Kamala Harris.
The Guardian reports that Ernst’s attorneys filed a supporting affidavit in her battle with her husband, Gail, stating, “In the summer of 2016, I was interviewed by Candidate Trump to be vice president of the United States. I turned Candidate Trump down, knowing it wasn’t the right thing for me or my family. neuter lOOter
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/gop-senator-joni-ernst-divorces-husband-preventing-trumps-vp-choice/
B.O.R.I.N.G. Can’t keep her apart from that other woman from DHS, also a kiersten something. They all look alike, sound alike. Not presidential material.
So, she crucified Al Franken on the altar of ambiion for nothing. Not only that, but this stuff is never going away. She will never be able to run. Ever.
Good riddance.