In latest lawsuit Alex Jones lawyers argue that no “reasonable reader or listener” should believe what their client says.

By | 2018-08-03T06:21:02+00:00 August 2nd, 2018|Categories: Front Page, News, News2|Tags: , , , , , , , |17 Comments

In the ongoing lawsuit filed by the Sandy Hook parents, there have been many accusations that Alex Jones inspired vicious online attacks against the families of the victims, some of which forced them to move multiple times. 

The lawyers for Jones have come up with an interesting defense. 

And that is that their client should simply not be believed.

Courtesy of Texas Monthly

His defense, meanwhile, argues that while Jones says that Cooper and De La Rosa faked the interview, and provides evidence for that claim that draws upon Jones’s own authority with video production, Jones didn’t intend to speak factually—and, in fact, no reasonable person would expect that Jones spoke factually on his show.

“There can simply be no statement of fact when Mr. Jones views a video of Anderson Cooper and provides his commentary and opinion with regard to possibilities as to why Mr. Cooper’s nose disappeared on the video, all the while directing the viewers’ attention to the very video about which he opined,” a motion to dismiss the suit filed by Jones’s attorney argues. “No reasonable reader or listener would interpret Mr. Jones’ statements regarding the possibility of a ‘blue-screen’ being used as a verifiably false statement of fact, and even if it is verifiable as false, the entire context in which it was made discloses that the statements are mere opinions ‘masquerading as a fact.’”

That may be the best argument available to Jones in defending the suit, but it also puts him once more in a position where his lawyers are arguing in court that the things he says during his broadcasts aren’t true—and, in fact, that any “reasonable reader or listener” would conclude that Jones, when he makes statements like “the green screen isn’t set right,” isn’t speaking factually. If Jones isn’t to be taken seriously when making statements like that, though, it becomes harder to understand what, exactly, Infowars is supposed to be informing its audience of.

Now the interesting thing about this defense is that it is eerily similar to the one Jones’ lawyers used during his custody battle with his wife last year:

At a recent pretrial hearing, attorney Randall Wilhite told state District Judge Orlinda Naranjo that using his client Alex Jones’ on-air Infowars persona to evaluate Alex Jones as a father would be like judging Jack Nicholson in a custody dispute based on his performance as the Joker in “Batman.”

“He’s playing a character,” Wilhite said of Jones. “He is a performance artist.”

Okay so here is a thing that separates the Left Wing from the Right Wing. 

If we had been getting our information from a guy who suddenly stated, more than once, that he was full of shit, we would STOP listening to him. 

However, on the Right, Jones is joined by Bill O’Reilly who claimed that he was playing the part of a provocateur and Glenn Beck who called himself a “rodeo clown,” and yet people continued to tune in to both of their shows for years afterward. 

It’s like people on the Right do not care if they get their information from confessed liars, just so long as they tell them what they want to hear. 

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17 Comments

  1. anon August 2, 2018 at 1:52 pm - Reply

    exactly

  2. Anon August 2, 2018 at 1:57 pm - Reply

    ” the country’s current “post-truth” moment? ” there is such thing as a bedrock of fact. ”
    “with the release this summer of a new paperback version of Lies My Teacher Told Me, Loewen contends that his bestselling book has “new significance … owing to detrimental developments in America’s recent public discourse.”
    By providing students an inadequate history education, Loewen argues, America’s schools breed adults who tend to conflate empirical fact and opinion, and who lack the media literacy necessary to navigate conflicting information.”
    “You write in the new version of Lies My Teacher Told Me that “there is a reciprocal relationship between truth about the past and justice in the present.””

    https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/08/history-education-post-truth-america/566657/

  3. Jo August 2, 2018 at 3:04 pm - Reply

    Alex Jones viewers/listeners are not ‘reasonable people’.

  4. Anonymous August 2, 2018 at 3:06 pm - Reply

    No reasonable reader or listener should believe what the “president” says either.

  5. anon August 2, 2018 at 3:23 pm - Reply

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-beats-seth-richs-parents-in-court?ref=home

    “A federal judge on Thursday handed Fox News a victory in a lawsuit filed against the network by the parents of Seth Rich over a now-retracted article pushing the unfounded claim that the slain DNC staffer was murdered because he leaked sensitive documents to WikiLeaks.” ““It is understandable that Plaintiffs might feel that their grief and personal loss were taken advantage of, and that the tragic death of their son was exploited for political purposes,” Daniels said. “However, a general allegation that Defendants had an ‘agreement to collaborate against’ Plaintiffs cannot form the basis for an IIED [intentional infliction of emotional distress] claim.”

  6. Anonymous August 2, 2018 at 3:34 pm - Reply

    Is Beck still out there? He of Vicks under the eyeballs to help him weep. Sheesh.

  7. Anonymous August 2, 2018 at 4:04 pm - Reply

    The NRA May Have To Shut Down NRATV Because They Can’t Get Insurance

    The NRA has been unable to renew their media liability insurance because they are a reputational risk which means that they may have to close down NRA TV.

    The Trace reported:
    In the complaint, entered July 20 and first reported by the New York Law Journal, the NRA claims it has lost income and access to banking services as a result of the state’s actions. One of the more dramatic impacts of Cuomo’s push: The NRA says it has not been able to renew its media liability insurance. If the group cannot secure a policy soon, it could be forced to shutter its multimillion-dollar television network, NRATV, or a number of its print publications, the complaint reads. The NRA also says that, without insurance, it “cannot maintain its physical premises” or “convene off-site meetings and events.”

    “Defendants’ concerted efforts to stifle the NRA’s freedom of speech and to retaliate against the NRA based on its viewpoints are causing other insurance, banking, and financial institutions doing business with the NRA … to rethink their mutually beneficial business relationships with the NRA for fear of monetary sanctions or expensive public investigations,” the complaint reads.

    The NRA is suing the state of New York because Gov. Andrew Cuomo has taken action to pressure banks and insurance companies not to do business with the gun lobby. As a result, the NRA can’t obtain media liability insurance because they are increasingly viewed as a reputational risk, which means that the likelihood that someone sues NRATV is high enough that insurance companies don’t want to touch them.

    The NRA is weakening

    Cuomo’s actions show that is possible to take on the NRA and weaken them.

    https://www.politicususa.com/2018/08/02/the-nra-may-have-to-shut-down-nratv-because-they-cant-get-insurance.html

  8. Randall August 2, 2018 at 6:03 pm - Reply

    And Rush Limbaugh, when confronted, said ‘it’s not my job to tell the truth, I’m an entertainer.”

  9. Anonymous August 2, 2018 at 8:40 pm - Reply

    Does he have a disclaimer at the beginning of the program?
    Attention viewers everything said on this show is b.s.

  10. Anon August 3, 2018 at 6:18 am - Reply
  11. anon August 3, 2018 at 6:56 am - Reply

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/national-enquirer-boss-david-pecker-tiptoes-away-from-his-pal-trump-as-scandal-swirls-and-circulation-drops?ref=home

    “National Enquirer publisher David Pecker” dropping tinypecker.”A month after the Enquirer’s last Trump cover, the Wall Street Journal reported that federal authorities had subpoenaed Pecker and other executives at American Media Inc. (AMI), which publishes the tabloid. They sought records related to allegations that the company purchased the rights to former Playboy model Karen McDougal’s story of an affair with Trump, then killed the story for Trump’s benefit, a practice known as “catch and kill.” Prosecutors are exploring whether such an agreement may have constituted an illegal in-kind contribution to the Trump campaign by AMI.”

  12. anonymous August 3, 2018 at 6:59 am - Reply

    ““[When we were] hanging out together, over burgers and tacos, telling stories, he mentioned being called the ‘Greek shrimp’ in high school and said ‘Karma’s a real bitch,’ and one day the people who bullied him in high school would meet a day of reckoning.”
    “[When Pappas] made the comment, at the time I thought it was a joke, ‘Hey, don’t worry, you’re not on my list.’ Now, looking back on it, it makes me queasy to think, ‘Oh wait, maybe this guy has a list.’””Asked what he would do if he thought he was on the list, Pappas’ unnamed friend said: “If there’s a bully he had in high school, I would tell that person to take an unplanned vacation to Alaska.””

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/suspect-in-houston-doctors-murder-still-at-largeand-he-has-a-hit-list?ref=home

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