Donald Trump warns evangelical leaders if they do not use their pulpits to help Republicans win during midterms there will be violence.

By |2018-08-29T08:17:44-08:00August 28th, 2018|Categories: Front Page, News|Tags: , , , , , |27 Comments

So much for the separation between church and state.

Courtesy of NYT:

In remarks to evangelical ministers in the White House State Dining Room on Monday night, President Trump spoke in high-minded tones about religious liberty, abortion and  youth unemployment. He noted a John Adams quote carved into the room’s fireplace: “I pray heaven to bestow the best of blessings on this house.”

But once reporters and television cameras were ushered out of the room, Mr. Trump turned to the more pragmatic concerns of how evangelical leaders can use their pulpits to help Republicans win in the midterm elections, according to an audiotape of his remarks provided to The New York Times by someone who attended the event.

“I just ask you to go out and make sure all of your people vote,” Mr. Trump told the group of about 100 evangelical ministers. “Because if they don’t — it’s Nov. 6 — if they don’t vote we’re going to have a miserable two years and we’re going to have, frankly, a very hard period of time because then it just gets to be one election — you’re one election away from losing everything you’ve got.”

Trump went on to claim that since he had gotten rid of the Johnson Amendment that church leaders were now free to stump for GOP candidate right from the pulpit without fear of reprisals from the IRS. 

(In reality, Trump did not really get rid of the Johnson Amendment, but did pass a bill keeping the IRS from enforcing it.)

Trump went on to issue this warning: 

Mr. Trump warned that if Republicans do not retain control of Congress, religious communities would lose all of the gains he had secured on their behalf.

“They will end everything immediately,” he said, apparently referring to Democrats. He added, again without being clear whom he was talking about: “They will overturn everything that we’ve done and they’ll do it quickly and violently. And violently. There’s violence. When you look at Antifa, and you look at some of these groups, these are violent people.”

Hard to imagine why politically victorious liberals would turn to violence, which is typically not their thing in the first place, but then again when have facts ever interfered with Trump’s declarations? 

Personally, I would suggest that if there is ANY violence to occur after a  blue wave of Democratic victories that it would be perpetrated by those gun-toting Trump supporters on the Right. 

In fact, there are some who think that the reason Trump is talking about violence in the first place is to make it seem reasonable for conservatives to engage in violent behavior as a preventative tactic to stop violence from the Left, even if there is no evidence of violence coming from the Left. 

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  1. Anonymous August 28, 2018 at 4:21 pm

    Trump is a mess!

    • Wanted August 28, 2018 at 4:58 pm

      Straight Jacket stat!

  2. viv August 28, 2018 at 4:45 pm

    Ironic that a lot of them invite guns into their churches but the only blood they want spilled is the blood of Democrats trying to follow in the footsteps of Jesus because they hate Jesus.

  3. Anonymous August 28, 2018 at 4:52 pm

    What an asshole followed by assholes.

    • Anonymous August 28, 2018 at 5:57 pm

      HOW can he sit there and get away with it???
      I’m too old, I guess, waaay too old.

      • anonymous August 28, 2018 at 6:36 pm

        Anon R 5:57, let’s have tea and commiserate. Every time Trump comes up with one of these idiocies, I wonder what has happened to the energy and determination of young people protesting Viet Nam, joining the Peace Corps, being dragged to jail for sit-downs and threatening to shut down DC (ok, that was scarey, but wouldn’t have missed it).

        • Anonymous August 28, 2018 at 7:13 pm

          Came of age Vietnam, 6:36 PM, “really?” from very conservative parents. I’ll meet you for tea, but mine will be a Bloody Mary or margarita depending time.
          I just don’t get it. I never WILL get it. In church every Sunday with my frilly petticoat underneath. Seen, not heard.

  4. Anonymous August 28, 2018 at 5:14 pm

    Just LOOK at him. Yeah, right,separation of church and state mean anything to you? Of course not.
    Let me tell you something, lil’ buddy, Antifa is not the problem, YOU are.

  5. Anonymous August 28, 2018 at 6:43 pm

    The Full-Spectrum Corruption of Donald Trump

    Everyone and everything he touches rots.

  6. Anonymous August 28, 2018 at 6:43 pm

    The Full-Spectrum Corruption of Donald Trump

    Everyone and everything he touches rots.

  7. Anonymous August 28, 2018 at 8:09 pm

    Utah man arrested after threatening to commit a mass shooting at a school using a gun made from a 3D printer.

  8. Anonymous August 28, 2018 at 8:26 pm

    IF YOU EVER GOT IMPEACHED – A Randy Rainbow Parody

  9. Anon August 29, 2018 at 2:39 am

    Donald Trump the fear monger. This is a tool in a narcissist tool box to gain power over people to con them some “other” is dangerous, violent and will take everything from you.

  10. Beaglemom August 29, 2018 at 3:23 am

    How can a sitting president make such statements in the White House? The ceiling should have caved in on him; the walls should have collapsed at his words. The nation should be horrified. He is not the president of the United States of America – he is a tin-foil despot. How can any Republicans in Congress or, for that matter, anywhere tolerate in the country, one more day of this insane behavior from their leader? Are they so anxious to destroy the bedrock core of this nation that they will continue to support this buffoon – day after day?

    Instead of inciting violence and more, he should have been asking those so-called religious leaders to join him in prayers for the thousands of people who died because of his administration’s gross failures to protect the people of Puerto Rico after the devastation of Hurricane Maria. He should have been announcing his administration’s plans to help rebuild homes and lives that he so wantonly destroyed both there and with his insane “zero tolerance” immigration policy that is still causing its tragic effects.

  11. Old Redneck August 29, 2018 at 4:43 am

    The photo of Trump that is at the head of this article led me to Google: “photos of toddler sulking”

    Try it.

    • Anon August 29, 2018 at 6:40 am

      “Early temper tantrums are an emotional outburst that occurs when a child becomes frustrated.”

      • Old Redneck August 29, 2018 at 12:01 pm

        Which tells us something about Trump’s emotional age!!

  12. BLM August 29, 2018 at 6:02 am
    • MLK August 29, 2018 at 8:11 am

      Martin Luther King Speech – Where do we go from here
      Southern Christian Leadership Conference
      Atlanta, Georgia
      16 August 1967

      Now, in order to answer the question, “Where do we go from here?” which is our theme, we must first honestly recognize where we are now. When the Constitution was written, a strange formula to determine taxes and representation declared that the Negro was 60 percent of a person. Today another curious formula seems to declare he is 50 percent of a person. Of the good things in life, the Negro has approximately one half those of whites. Of the bad things of life, he has twice those of whites. Thus half of all Negroes live in substandard housing. And Negroes have half the income of whites. When we view the negative experiences of life, the Negro has a double share. There are twice as many unemployed.

      ” I conclude by saying again today that we have a task and let us go out with a “divine dissatisfaction.” Let us be dissatisfied until America will no longer have a high blood pressure of creeds and an anemia of deeds. Let us be dissatisfied until the tragic walls that separate the outer city of wealth and comfort and the inner city of poverty and despair shall be crushed by the battering rams of the forces of justice. [,et us be dissatisfied until those that live on the outskirts of hope are brought into the metropolis of daily security. Let us be dissatisfied until slums are cast into the junk heaps of history, and every family is living in a decent sanitary home. Let us be dissatisfied until the dark yesterdays of segregated schools will be transformed into bright tomorrows of quality, integrated education. Let us be dissatisfied until integration is not seen as a problem but as an opportunity to participate in the beauty of diversity. Let us be dissatisfied until men and women, however black they may be, will be judged on the basis of the content of their character and not on the basis of the color of their skin. Let us be dissatisfied. Let us be dissatisfied until every state capitol houses a governor who will do justly, who will love mercy and who will walk humbly with his God. Let us be dissatisfied until from every city hall, justice will roll down like waters and righteousness like a mighty stream. Let us be dissatisfied until that day when the lion and the lamb shall lie down together. and every man will sit under his own vine and fig tree and none shall be afraid. Let us be dissatisfied. And men will recognize that out of one blood God made all men to dwell upon the face of the earth. Let us be dissatisfied until that day when nobody will shout “White Power!” – when nobody will shout “Black Power!” – but everybody will talk about God’s power and human power. ”

  13. anon August 29, 2018 at 6:46 am

    Well of course “Several senate Republicans have told Ducey they want him to appoint a successor to McCain who will not do what he did in supporting Obamacare.”

  14. anonymous August 29, 2018 at 7:47 am

    ““Giuliani, for example, is a hot mess. He talked about how the payment to Stormy Daniels was linked to the campaign. That’s literally connecting his client to a criminal violation!”

  15. Anonymous August 29, 2018 at 8:12 am

    Well isn’t that special, the so-called president of the United States threatening violence against citizens. Add that to the list of impeachable offenses, failure to serve and protect the citizens of the USA!!!

    His base is only 30%, sure the National Guard could take care of those bullies.

    Also notice they still have their guns that Obama was going to take away.

    Evangelicals are all going to end up in Hell. Nothing Christian about any of them, in fact their rhetoric sounds just like Islamic militants that they hate so much.

    • Beaglemom August 29, 2018 at 8:55 am

      To say nothing of his advocating for the politicization of churches for religious purposes. Don the Con disparages the Constitution with every breath he takes and his Mussolini-like postures show him to be the despot he wants to be. He would have supported the Nazis in WWII.

  16. Anonymous August 29, 2018 at 10:04 am

    That works both ways. Liberal ministers need to call their congregations to vote Democratic in November

  17. anon August 29, 2018 at 10:25 am

    “He noted that Evangelicals view Trump as a Cyrus figure. Cyrus was the emperor of Persia before his death in 530 BC. According to the Hebrew Bible, Cyrus liberated the Jews from the Babylonians and rebuilt the Temple in Jerusalem.

    They hope Trump is a modern day Cyrus.

    “They regard him as a person who is not one of God’s own people (Jewish or Christian) but an instrument of God to deliver Israel and American evangelical Christianity from persecution,””

    “Their hope and belief is that Trump will appoint federal judges and Supreme Court judges who will “undo” Roe v Wade and gay marriage and free Christians (and others) to refuse to do business with gays.”

    “Personally, speaking only for myself, I believe President Trump only cares about power. I have not seen any real principles—other than “Make American great again” (with an implied “and me, too”). I strongly suspect that he is manipulating his conservative Christian “base” and would turn on them in a moment if it suited his agenda to be powerful.””

  18. 4america August 29, 2018 at 11:17 am

    The Journalist, law enforcement, DOJ, FBI, homeland security must ask don trump whom will become violent? and how does he know this? Don trump must answer this question immediately. Who will become violent IF republicans lose? And how do you know this mr trump?

  19. anon August 30, 2018 at 8:15 am

    porn stars!

    ” a phone conversation taped by Cohen had him saying, “It’s all the stuff — all the stuff, because you never know.”
    {pecker, ‘david -Get hit by a bus’?}

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