David Frum: “We got Donald Trump in the first place as a punishment for not being good enough citizens.”

By |2018-06-12T06:29:35+00:00June 11th, 2018|Categories: News|Tags: , , , , |15 Comments

Courtesy of the Washington Examiner:

David Frum, a senior editor at The Atlantic, lectured Americans on Sunday to be more informed after a recent study revealed almost three-quarters of the country is growing weary of the fast-paced news cycle.

“If your child is feverishly ill, it can be very fatiguing to sit by her bedside and take care of her, but it’s what you do because that’s your duty,” Frum said during a panel discussion on CNN’s “Reliable Sources.” “If your country is ill, you have the same responsibility.”

Frum pushed back on the assertion of another panelist that news organizations should present information in a more palatable manner.

“In many ways, we got Donald Trump in the first place as a punishment for not being good enough citizens. And our ability to mitigate the harm he’s going to do to institutions, to alliances, to the security of the world will depend on our, as individuals, willingness to be better citizens in the future, and that means being informed citizens,” he continued.

“In many ways, we got Donald Trump in the first place as a punishment for not being good enough citizens.”

I cannot decide whether that should just be put on billboards all over the country, or shame tattooed on the foreheads of Trump supporters. 

I might go with both.

I do not always agree with David Frum, but this is one of the most truthful things I have heard in some time. 

Right up there with De Niro’s “Fuck Trump!”

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  1. Anonymous June 11, 2018 at 1:34 pm

    We got trump because the media took him as a joke,gave him free air time and didn’t challenge his lies.

    And we got trump because he and putin rigged the election.

    • Charlotte June 12, 2018 at 3:46 am


      And at the same time, all news stories about Hillary were negative.

  2. anonymous June 11, 2018 at 1:57 pm

    Jim Wright Excerpt FB>
    “HOW do we fix this? How do we restore America? How do we salvage this mess. I mean, yeah, OK, sure, it’s a wreck, man, but I’M not responsible, it’s not MY fault. So, how do we fix this? How do we dig out WITHOUT it affecting ME?
    What’s the trick? You hang your hopes on the supposed reasoned intellect of John Kelly or perhaps impeachment by a suddenly enlightened Congress or some bloodless revolution or divine intervention or some other magical unicorn.
    But, there’s no trick.
    There’s no gimmick.
    There isn’t going to be any easy salvation. Not this time.
    And my answer is the same as it ever was.
    We have to do the work.
    It’s tedious and it’s painful and there’s no glory in it and it’s filled with hard choices and there’s a whole lot more of it today than there was a year ago. Worse, even if you do the work, there is NO assurance that you’ll win. None at all.
    But you’re not even in the running if you don’t show up.
    Now, you can resent that all you like.
    You can snarl at me, you can demand “whose dick did you suck, huh?”
    You tell me “I told you so” isn’t helpful. Well of course not. Of course me saying “I told you sons of bitches so” is not helpful.
    Not if you didn’t listen THEN and you still won’t listen NOW.
    But I did tell you so. And I’m going to keep reminding you of it until you goddamned LISTEN.
    There’s no trick, folks.
    You have to do the work, especially if you don’t want to. That’s why it’s called duty.
    There’s no unicorn and there never has been. It’s slow and it’s tedious and it’s filled with rotten choices. Too damned bad, that’s the job. Educate yourself. Help others. Lead. It’s not about you, it’s about doing the grunt work of citizenship, it’s about the future of the Republic.
    If you don’t want to know the answer, then don’t ask.
    If the answer makes you mad, then don’t ask.
    If you’re not going to listen, then don’t ask.
    As we used to say in the Navy: Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way.
    If you want a better nation … well, then you know what has to be done.
    Get after it.” {be a better citizen}

  3. Elizabeth June 11, 2018 at 1:59 pm

    People usually get what they deserve. Trump didn’t come from nowhere, he was one of us.

    I really hope that at the end of Trump’s reign, the entire country will have a come to Jesus moment, and we decide won’t make this mistake ever again.

  4. anonymous June 11, 2018 at 2:33 pm

    Katy Tur
    “I feel like I’m taking crazy pills,”


    “We’re all taking crazy pills,” retorts right-wing pundit John Podhoretz.”

  5. Beaglemom June 11, 2018 at 4:10 pm

    David From needs to be reminded, perhaps several times a day, that 3 million more Americans voted for Hillary Clinton than voted for Trump, and that the Russians wrecked havoc on our bizarre election system in November 2016. I suspect the vote was not tallied correctly in those states that suddenly went for Trump – at the very last minute. In Detroit alone, there were so many voting machine malfunctions that one had to wonder. . . . No, the majority of those who voted for Hillary Clinton in November 2016 were not bamboozled by anyone. We voted for the best candidate on the ballot. Can anyone imagine that any of this nonsense would be happening today if she had been victorious?

  6. dvlaries June 11, 2018 at 4:41 pm

    Only slightly OT:

    “…In her immateriality, Melania well represents the status of women under Trump — absent, frozen out, erased from the picture. This applies of course not only to those women within the administration, but to the way women in general are perceived: As inessential blank spaces, their humanity and concerns easily erased.

    “And beyond that, Melania represents the void that is the entire administration, which by any lights is devoid of logic, coherent policies, and finally, leadership. This is the void that leaves all of us, Americans and the rest of the world, increasingly confused, anxious, and searching. Donald Trump himself is the ultimate absent character, the ultimate void. Melania’s drama is but a deflection of this central one. …”

    Melania’s Recent Behavior Is Right Out of Hitchcock by Rhonda Garelick


    • Anonymous June 11, 2018 at 5:34 pm

      dvlaries, my man! Good to see you.
      In her immateriality? Oh puh-leeze…….

  7. Anonymous June 11, 2018 at 5:07 pm

    Karma got him? Kudlow who has been busy demonizing Trudeau just had a heart attack!

  8. Karen June 11, 2018 at 5:19 pm

    This is crap. Hillary would have won had the Russians not interfered. Speak for yourself, Frum.

    • Gryphen June 11, 2018 at 6:00 pm

      His point is that people did not do their due diligence in differentiating between phony Facebook posts and real news.

      Millions of voters did indeed vote for his idiot, so yes Americans taking their responsibility to become better informed before voting is necessary.

      • Anonymous June 11, 2018 at 6:55 pm

        We DID vote, Gryph, and she won by 3M+.popular vote.
        They’ll never get rid of the electoral college.

        • Anonymous June 12, 2018 at 3:59 am

          You can bet that money was exchanging hands like Vega$.

  9. Mary Lynn Gregory June 12, 2018 at 6:42 am

    To Quote Jim Wright
    “In the end, as always, if you want a better nation, you have to be better citizens.”


  10. Everyday Freethought June 12, 2018 at 3:28 pm

    I did not get Trump as punishment because *I* was not a good citizen. I got Trump as punishment for *other people* not being good citizens.

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